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Speaker 1: What did it say again?
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Speaker 2: Because of the fragility. Y Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Y you didn't carry it outside with you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think the thought of carrying it with me is so beautiful. And it's so logical also because, yes, if you take care, then you also build up a relationship. So you, you want to have it with you constantly. And. But I, I guess I didn't do it. [JZ1]And, and you also reminded me of it because of the fragility or like because it is very fragile. And you are. I am also worried that I can make a mistake or that I maybe I damage it or maybe I because I feel I that was also part of it that I feel that I, I take care of it for you because it's still your Artefact and it's sort of I want to return it in good health, in good in good sanity to you. And I don't want to be like playing around too much because maybe I can break it or I damage it or it gets dirty or scratched or something. So yeah, there's there's also something about the material that you think like, Oh, I better not touch it too much. Yeah. Because I was also only this morning I, I saw like that I can that I can rinse it because I was with a, with a with a little cloth. I would, I would sort of, you know, like clean it or something because if, if the dust will come up. But then this morning I read it again and I was like, no, you can, you can also if here, if I get dirty, if I get dusty, rinse me with room temperature water. So I did that this morning only I felt like, oh I can I could have done that more often. Yeah. So it's there is a there's so much interaction between the, the material of the Artefact and what's in the Artefact or like both are communicating with me. So to have them with me with breakfast, this is easier for me to, to place next to me like, like a or a flask or something and have breakfast. But, but, but the carrying it around over my shoulder. That is very tempting. That's that's like. Yeah but I don't know maybe you because this is the stupid thing. If you say that to people then you are instructing them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, of course. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I cannot say it. No.
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Speaker 2: So it should, it should just happen.
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Speaker 1: I mean but it's a great learning because then I understand. Okay. This type of material form makes it look quite fragile. Yeah. Because you also mentioned. Because it's so. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, You said there was a living thing in it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Make, make you feel also a bit careful.
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Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also the thickness and then also with the bubbles then you even feel how fragile it is. [JZ2]Yeah. You know, like. Like if this would happen underneath a Foley or something you would, I would place like a little needle in it and then, and then take the air out, you know, like. But I was like, oh my gosh, what's happening here? Yeah. So when you see like, how fragile everything is. So, yeah, it would be completely different story if it would be a different material.
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Speaker 1: Let's say if it's a block.
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Speaker 2: Like, like, like a block of, of, uh, like Kunst haus. Like this. Kind of like this. Yeah. And then something in there completely different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very sure. Yeah. But on the other hand, it's. It's so cool that it can move, that it's flexible, that you can bend it and stuff. I mean, this is really cool.[JZ3]
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Speaker 1: I guess the most interesting about this bending and the flexible is that you can position it in very different ways. The bottle that you use to. Yeah. Was so interesting. And also the hanging. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No that's that's really nice one. Yeah. Great. That's.

[JZ1]Fragility looking makes people feel hesitant in carrying it around - which is a pity, because they also recognise that the idea is beautiful and builds intimate relationship
[JZ2]Thickness and bubble makes it look more fragile
[JZ3]Imagine the artefact being a block - the perception and interaction will be totally different


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