participation and debate and testing with citizens is desirable
but getting a representative and sufficiently equipped group of people to participate is hard
tests are sometimes done by paying people to participate
can't be an excuse though
setting up a permanent test facility for ``legal tech''
use of methods needs to happen reflexively
council and executive board are monitoring digital development
challenge is to engage all relevant stakeholders and ensure they are sufficiently informed
policy frameworks is how legislature shapes system development by executive
use random sample to evaluate new systems
pilot phase is different from once systems have been taken into production -- pilot phase is not the hard part
for individual grievances existing complaint, object and appeal procedures should also work for algorithmic decisions
they also try to close loop between complaints and making system changes in response
challenge is to have enough legal people who understand algorithms
    are developing guideline to aid in such cases
for other loop not related to individual decisions, they expect a lot fro algorithm register